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Tuesday, August 10, 2010

Garbage Juice: Atlanta Is Brave to Think They Even Have a Shot

Here's our first installment of Garbage Juice and I thought we'd start off with a team that I've hated for a long time - the Atlanta Braves.  Ever since the Braves joined the NL East, they have been a force and a team Mets fans have unfortunately had to be jealous of for a long time.  All through the 90s and early 2000s, we could never beat them, they had the unstoppable pitching staff, and you know how much everyone in NYC loves Larry Jones.  While they've been absent from the post-season for a few years now, it does look like the Bravos are going to make it back to October baseball.  Does this matter? No.  Why?  Same old Braves - no World Series for them.

In the Braves historic run of playoff teams from 1991-2005, they won a single championship in 14 post-season chances.  That's terrible.  Well, you might say that those teams are not this team and this new team is young and ready to blast into legitimacy again.  I say, this team isn't all that different than those from that 14 year span.

First, you have the exact same manager.  Bobby Cox may be loved by the Atlanta faithful, but in my house, we've been waiting for him to trip and fall when running out to the dugout to yell at an umpire for years.  The guy has been thrown out of more games than any manager in the majors.  That's not as important as the fact that while his teams win, they don't win championships.  At some point, that comes down to managing.  This is Cox's last season as he's announced his retirement.  It would be pretty fitting that while this team is making a run for a championship that they fall short as Bobby has always done.

Next, this team does have a pretty good pitching staff like the dominant staffs of the 90s and early 00s Braves.  Sure, it's not Maddux, Glavine, Smoltz, Avery, etc., but Tim Hudson is pitching lights out this year, Tommy Hanson and Jair Jurrjens are excellent young players, Derek Lowe is pretty good for a 4th starter, and you don't really need a 5th guy in the playoffs.  Well, like I said, these guys are good, but they're not the big time starters of Braves teams past.  Tim Hudson has a career ERA of almost 4 in the playoffs, Hanson and Jurrjens have no experience, and while Lowe has had some success in the post-season, he's 37 now and is not the same guy that pitched in Boston or even LA.  And the question comes to mind, if a rotation full of hall of famers can't get it done, how is this rotation?

Finally, Larry Jones, my least favorite player of all time. As someone who has killed the Mets year after year for most of the time I've watched baseball regularly, it's been a pleasure watching him get old and fade into the sunset.  At the end of the day, Larry's batting in the mid-.200s and has 10 home runs this year.  I'm pretty sure no one is scared anymore and no one outside of Atlanta cares either.  He should probably retire after this season and go on a bicycle tour of America with Bobby Cox where they can hold hands and reminisce about how they couldn't win more than one championship with so many opportunities.

So, with all that, this team is a lot like the old Braves teams.  There are some new additions in Prado, Heyward, etc, but that doesn't seem like enough to carry this team to a championship in 2010.  The Braves will just float into the playoffs, get knocked out early, and then next year settle back to the middle of the pack in the NL East as the Mets rise to the top.

Spiteful? Yes.  Kinda convoluted? Yes.  Does it make me feel better? A little. 

Drink it up.

8 comments:

  1. Thats easy to say when you're in 3rd place. Things look a little different from our perspective....in the #1 spot
    8.5 games back must SUCK!

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  2. I can sum up his blog in one sentence: "I hate the Braves because they are better than the Mets."
    5 hours ago · Like · 8 people ·
    Heather Schmidt Morado WOW.. no comment from me i think would be best.. but seeing th part where they said they wanted to to see bobby trip and fall.. i loved on the game sat i think when bobby was trying to get the cup of the cleat.. lol
    5 hours ago · Like · 1 person ·
    Nate Mansfield Not so bad. Actually kind of inspiring. Funny how he doesn't mention that the mets must have the worst roi in baseball. How many billions have they spent?
    5 hours ago · Like · 2 people ·
    Bob Howard it's the province of every negative sports fan (including pessimistic braves fans) to predict failure because it's so easy to be proven correct, and people just love to be right, don't they?

    assuming that the braves make the playoffs, which ...
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    4 hours ago · Like · 7 people ·
    Cannon Pearson Rivalries are my favorite part of sports. It makes me happy to know that Mets fans hate the Braves as much as I hate the Mets. It makes a victory sweeter when you know that it really burns up the other guy.
    4 hours ago · Like · 2 people ·
    T Ross Valentine I think Ryan has done a very fine job of summarising the article. It didn't upset me in the least. I just smiled.
    4 hours ago · Like · 1 person ·
    Vickie Whitley Boyd That made me laugh. Talking about Bobby getting to championships and failing. And what have the Mets done lately? Oh yeah, blew a, what, 14 game lead? Or was it 17? Choke. I can name a LOT of very coaches in all sports that have winning seasons and don't succeed in playoffs/finals. I mean, who cares. I'd rather have a winning season. Making it to the NLCS and WS are nice, but there are a lot of good teams in baseball.

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  3. Ross Valentine ‎@Nate -- Mets 2010 payroll is $132.7 million -- exceeded only by Phillies ($141.9 million, Cubs $146.9 million, Red Sox $162.7 million, and Yankees $206.3 million). Source: http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/salaries/teams -- it would be interesting to divide each team's salary by number of wins.
    4 hours ago · Like · 2 people ·
    Vickie Whitley Boyd Did you see the poll on that site? Who do you think is going to win the series, Yankees, Braves, Phils. The choices are No and Hedoublehockeysticks no. Heh, NY fans of any sport are so...
    4 hours ago · Like · 1 person ·
    Brady Ponton yeah, that actually wasn't bad to read as a Braves fan. It is based entirely on opinion and assumptions. I love that Mets fans hate Chipper for the simple fact that he has blasted them his entire career. And Like Cannon said, I hate the Mets just as much as that guy hates the Braves, and I would probably spout off similar things if I were looking up at the Mets from 8.5 back.
    4 hours ago · Like · 2 people ·
    Antonio Villegas III He's just mad because they can't beat their cross town rival, much less the Braves. We've had one manager for almost 20 years, and they go through them like clothes. Like Vickie said...CHOKE!
    4 hours ago · Like · 2 people ·

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  4. Jordan Cohen Have you guys noticed how no one has ever commented on any of this guys blogs??? And he has a voting poll up:

    Will the Phillies, Braves, or Yankees make the world series?

    No
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    4 hours ago · Like · 3 people ·
    Carol Morand All in all, I take this as a compliment....
    4 hours ago · Like · 2 people ·
    T Ross Valentine ‎@Jordan -- very few want to drink his Kool-Aid!
    4 hours ago · Like · 2 people ·
    Brian David Kirk First of all, the last world champion Mets team was WAYYYYY back in '86. Second, try to post a comment on the blog and it doesn't allow it. Third, the statement that we have been a force since joining the NL East, and that they could never ...
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    4 hours ago · Like · 3 people ·
    Jamie Knight Yeah that was some GARBAGE JUICE alright, that's ok though, good luck "floating into the playoffs" with Frenchy and those guys. We'll send him a postcard from the NLCS
    4 hours ago · Like ·
    Jojo Bongos Bailey man o man , i see a bunch of compliments is all ... kinda like hating me cause im pretty ... ha ha ha ha ha ha ............
    4 hours ago · Like · 1 person ·
    Morgan Elliott If money won championships, then maybe the Mets would have a chance of winning the NL East.
    4 hours ago · Like · 3 people ·
    Corey Mullins some of the stuff he says is true.....
    4 hours ago · Like ·
    Kristen Hoyt He has some extremely good points. He wasn't wrong about pretty much all of his data. If Bobby wasn't the Braves manager, I wouldn't like him either...getting kicked out the most in history, while hilarious, is definitely not "sportsmanlik...
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    4 hours ago · Like ·
    Vickie Whitley Boyd Y'know, Mets fans shouldn't harp on Larry Jones, Jr. After all, he did name his only son Shea. ;)
    4 hours ago · Like · 2 people ·
    Carrie Johnson Looks to me like this guy's got a bad case of "sour grapes". It actually made me laugh. I find it amusing that the guy insists on referring to Chipper as "Larry". He must think of it as some sort of an insult. Even if Chipper is not a big fan of his given name, I don't see how that can be taken as an insult. Silly Mutts fans..

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  5. Ross Valentine ‎@Vickie -- but even Mets fans don't like the name Shea now -- they ditched it after all
    4 hours ago · Like · 1 person ·
    Susan Doster Lovett Won't he be in for a rude awakening in October when the Braves win the series. :)
    4 hours ago · Like · 1 person ·
    Samantha Lynne Mosburg ‎@Vickie, I believe Shea is chippers third son.. but none the less..
    This Guy needs to jump into a river.
    4 hours ago · Like · 1 person ·
    Samantha Lynne Mosburg Well, 4 sons if you count the Hooters scandal.
    4 hours ago · Like ·
    Amy Boykin Smith LOL...Who's not going to the World Series FOR SURE??? THE METS haha! What a dope! He's so jealous lol!!!!
    4 hours ago · Like · 1 person ·
    Louis Evans Would love to see a couple of h.b.p's the next time we face them.
    4 hours ago · Like · 1 person ·
    Amy Boykin Smith I couldn't help myself...I had to comment lol..
    4 hours ago · Like · 1 person ·
    Kathleen O'Neill Stephan "Ever since the Braves joined the NL East, they have been a force and a team Mets fans have unfortunately had to be jealous of for a long time."
    First of all, his opening kind honors our team! I actually think he did the Braves proud by me...
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    3 hours ago · Like · 1 person ·
    Nick Ryan The mets can't win so they talk about how other teams aren't gonna win either? Way to much time on their hands, maybe if they went out and spend a little money they could buy their way into the playoffs. They're a hated team in a city that expects greatness
    3 hours ago · Like · 1 person ·
    Alex Garber Looks like some one is jealous.
    3 hours ago · Like · 1 person ·
    Antonio Villegas III Its amazing what one can accomplish when they have nothing better to do. Gee buddy get a life.
    3 hours ago · Like · 1 person ·
    Linda Cooley ‎"MAYBE we should chug on over to mamby-pamby land where MAYBE we can find some self-confidence for you, you jack-wagon!" Crybabies.
    3 hours ago · Like · 2 people ·
    Richard Coffey question...who is going to lift the mutts above the braves next year?they're going to need alot this offseason...oh wait,their offseason already started didn't it? lol!!
    3 hours ago · Like · 1 person ·
    Stuart Barefoot Man those guys on that blog are tool bags. If you want to talk about a team who is mismanaged, just look at the Mets. I've never seen a team with that much talent lose like they do. Mets fans in general have little to no class, and hate guys like Chipper and Bobby cause they handed the Met's asses to them for nearly TWO DECADES!!!!
    2 hours ago · Like · 1 person ·
    Linda Cooley Let's bag up some sour grapes garbage for the Mets. I think that's their flavor.
    2 hours ago · Like · 1 person ·
    Brittney Nicole Johnson I think I peed myself laughing at this,not gonna lie LMAO!!!
    about an hour ago · Like · 1 person ·

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  6. Ross Valentine ‎@Vickie -- but even Mets fans don't like the name Shea now -- they ditched it after all
    4 hours ago · Like · 1 person ·
    Susan Doster Lovett Won't he be in for a rude awakening in October when the Braves win the series. :)
    4 hours ago · Like · 1 person ·
    Samantha Lynne Mosburg ‎@Vickie, I believe Shea is chippers third son.. but none the less..
    This Guy needs to jump into a river.
    4 hours ago · Like · 1 person ·
    Samantha Lynne Mosburg Well, 4 sons if you count the Hooters scandal.
    4 hours ago · Like ·
    Amy Boykin Smith LOL...Who's not going to the World Series FOR SURE??? THE METS haha! What a dope! He's so jealous lol!!!!
    4 hours ago · Like · 1 person ·
    Louis Evans Would love to see a couple of h.b.p's the next time we face them.
    4 hours ago · Like · 1 person ·
    Amy Boykin Smith I couldn't help myself...I had to comment lol..
    4 hours ago · Like · 1 person ·
    Kathleen O'Neill Stephan "Ever since the Braves joined the NL East, they have been a force and a team Mets fans have unfortunately had to be jealous of for a long time."
    First of all, his opening kind honors our team! I actually think he did the Braves proud by me...
    See More
    3 hours ago · Like · 1 person ·
    Nick Ryan The mets can't win so they talk about how other teams aren't gonna win either? Way to much time on their hands, maybe if they went out and spend a little money they could buy their way into the playoffs. They're a hated team in a city that expects greatness
    3 hours ago · Like · 1 person ·
    Alex Garber Looks like some one is jealous.
    3 hours ago · Like · 1 person ·
    Antonio Villegas III Its amazing what one can accomplish when they have nothing better to do. Gee buddy get a life.
    3 hours ago · Like · 1 person ·
    Linda Cooley ‎"MAYBE we should chug on over to mamby-pamby land where MAYBE we can find some self-confidence for you, you jack-wagon!" Crybabies.
    3 hours ago · Like · 2 people ·
    Richard Coffey question...who is going to lift the mutts above the braves next year?they're going to need alot this offseason...oh wait,their offseason already started didn't it? lol!!
    3 hours ago · Like · 1 person ·
    Stuart Barefoot Man those guys on that blog are tool bags. If you want to talk about a team who is mismanaged, just look at the Mets. I've never seen a team with that much talent lose like they do. Mets fans in general have little to no class, and hate guys like Chipper and Bobby cause they handed the Met's asses to them for nearly TWO DECADES!!!!
    2 hours ago · Like · 1 person ·
    Linda Cooley Let's bag up some sour grapes garbage for the Mets. I think that's their flavor.
    2 hours ago · Like · 1 person ·
    Brittney Nicole Johnson I think I peed myself laughing at this,not gonna lie LMAO!!!
    about an hour ago · Like · 1 person ·

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  7. Well, I do have a solution. You could cry more.

    I guess I'd be butthurt too if my team were over 8 games back.

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  8. Redo this blog in Espanol so the fans can understand it.

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